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Hype the Time Quest Ubisoft Exclusive



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NameHype the Time Quest
VersionUbisoft Exclusive
License Retail
URLhttp://www.ubi.com/
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RatingBronze
Wine Version1.4-rc2
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Description
One disk version
Old test results
The test results you have selected are very old and may not represent the current state of Wine.
Selected Test Results (selected in 'Test Results' table below)

What works
­Not much.­ I have gotten it to load and get to the part where you select "new game", etc­, but when the mouse enters the window (I have it in an emulated desktop), the mouse disappears and I cannot click anything. Arrow keys don't h­elp either. More detail in "What does not work" (more applicable).

Sound works at default settings. As it is loading, and at the part where you get stuck (where you select "new game" etc.), the music and sound is great. You might have a freak event where the sound does not load, but in general, it will.

The install does not go over 100% anymore, except maybe sometimes. When you uncheck the "Microsoft DirectX Media" software test, that makes the installer not fail, and used to be what makes the installer not go over 100%, but now Wine doesn't go over 100% even if you don't uncheck the software test, but if you don't uncheck the software test, the installer will still fail. You might have a freak case where it goes over 100%. One time, when I tried with the Zeckensack wrapper in Win4.0 mode, and it did go over 100%, even though I had the test unchecked. I tried again with Zeckensack's to repeat the situation, and it did not go over 100%.

The two system checks where you click "details" do in fact work. But you must uncheck the Microsoft DirecX Media check, which causes t­he installer to fail.


What does not
The main thing that doesn't work is that the user input (mouse, arrow keys, F1) is not taken in. In fact, the mouse disappears.

Less importantly, the Microsoft DirectX Media test doesn't work. Given that the WINE devs have been putting a lot of effort into Direct3D/ DirectX, it will be interesting to see where this goes. Hype might be a good indicator of WINE's DirectX development as WINE progresses.

Also, it should work in any mode above Win NT 4.0, because I have ran Hype in Windows 7 just fine without compatibility mode, any wrappers, or other trickery. But it only gets very far if in Win NT 4.0 mode.

Unless in Win4.0 mode, there is usually an error.


Hype itself does not support lower versions than WINE's NT 4.0 mode. Hype itself supports above that. I have ran Hype well in real Windows 7 without compatibility mode, any wrappers, or other trickery. WINE can't handle Hype. WINE's Win4.0 mode does the best job of all its modes. It doesn't have that common error (first one screenshoted) if in Win4.0. All other modes will error. Win2000 mode always gives the second error, everything else above Win4.0 gives the first error. Hype says that it doesn't support workstations of 3.1 and below if you set WINE below 4.0.

You can't get the mouse in the Window (it is running in a virtual desktop) and click anything to begin playing. Selecting "Automatically capture the mouse in full-screen windows" in WINE config does not help.
"Clicking into the window" does not help. Using arrow keys also does not help. Pressing F1 does not do anything (should bring up Hype help).




What was not tested
Game play. Couldn't get to that part.


Additional Comments

Although you still can't play the game, the progress is exciting. This "garbage"-rated test result is not actually garbage, but hope. Heck, Battle for Naboo jumped straight from garbage to gold to platinum just boom-boom-boom! If the pointer device can get working, Hype may very well get to silver or even gold.

I tried with and without Zeckensack's wrapper. Zeckensack's wrapper doesn't help here. Don't install Zeckensack's for this. It makes it worse.

Wine, in terminal output, suggested that I try Win NT 4.0 mode and 3.1 mode, because it couldn't deal with vxd stuff. So I tried the two modes. NT 4.0 got further than ever before. I tried the two modes in earlier Wine versions, but the progress of the NT 4.0 mode is new.

Note: for this test result I did everything in Win4.0 unless otherwise specified. That means I installed Hype under 4.0 mode and I ran Hype in 4.0 mode. Previously (before this test) I had installed Hype in XP mode, and then switched things up after. Same effect. Note that when I tried Zeckensacks, I installed Zeckensack's under Win4.0 mode for this test. For this test result I did everything in a virtual desktop. I had the same results in earlier tests, except that was with earlier Wine versions, and I did not get to the Hype "start menu" like I did this time; it had always given an error (one of the two above), and I tried with and without a virtual desktop.

Note 2: I also tried in Linux Mint 11 32-bit to see if the problem was 64-bit Linux not having 32-bit libraries, since in the terminal output there are many "ELF"s and "deferred"s. I thought ELFs and deferreds had to do with that. Same errors occur in both bitages, and I actually have libraries that are showing up as deferred/ ELFed that Synaptic says I have, so it's not a simple matter of not having libraries.

However, it is interesting to note that some graphics/other system checks may take place if you choose.
When Zeckensack's wrapper is installed, the Hype installer sees "3DFX hardware."

Hype lets you choose 3DFX or Direct3D (D3D). Before either is chosen (that happens later after installation), clicking details in the second installer prompt yeilds passing info about the system, whether or not Zeckensack's is installed. This progress is moderately new. Wine didn't used to be able to show this info:
[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zUytLCz9SE0/ToSEuZpNVzI/AAAAAAAAALE/O7ms8g9KO_E/GreenGo.png[/img]

Later, after the game is installed, when you play Hype for the first time, you choose 3DFX or D3D.
If Zeckensack's is installed, 3DFX is seen as an option as well as D3D. If not, only D3D is allowed.
At this point, you may click "details" and see more hases/has nots in regard to your graphics situation.
If you choose D3D, whether or not Zeckensack's is installed, your system will look up to par:
[img]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RPeJnpZNrs8/ToSEuIBkWFI/AAAAAAAAAK8/YkO4gutS_Tw/Other%252520Test_D3D.png[/img]

Logically, if you select 3DFX when Zeckensack's is not installed, you will see that your system is not up to par:
[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6gamkqI-yeU/ToSEuY-ZyxI/AAAAAAAAALA/8SgV-9jdOlo/Other%252520Check_3DFX.png[/img]

If Zeckensack's is installed, and you choose 3DFX, you will see the test say that your system is up to par:
[img]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-llH7yrvzw9E/ToSEs5-OMoI/AAAAAAAAAKc/S_ADfT6AvVg/Zeck%252520Test.png[/img]

Also, here's a walkthrough of the installation.
Note that I did have Gecko installed. Do not know if this makes a difference. Hype does have an Internet feature, so you might actually want to install Gecko into your Hype prefix. 
I made a folder called "hype" in my home folder. I used this folder as a Wine prefix to install Hype in. This isolates it from things in your default Wine prefix, gives it it's own little world, set of settings, registry, etc. And you can delete it and remake it repeatedly without loosing anything else.

in terminal, "WINEPREFIX=$HOME/shjake wine winecfg" (or wherever the prefix is)
In the applications tab, select Windows NT 4.0.
In the drives tab, add D:\, and link it to where the HYPE disc is mounted (/media/HYPE in my case).
Under the Graphics tab, check to emulate a virtual desktop.
Don't forget to click Apply after all that. That's important

in terminal,
"WINEPREFIX=$HOME/shjake wine '/media/HYPE/SetupUbi.exe'" (or wherever it is)

Now when the Hype installer appears, click "Install"

Now click "Change":
[img]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--TnpNO1UnAo/ToRaRCl01rI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/cdz5NSmClQs/Installing1.png[/img]

Now click "Software tests...":
[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C9LdLAYFtEU/ToRaQ6afO3I/AAAAAAAAAJ0/KZhF3BVlToA/Installing2.png[/img]

Now uncheck "Microsoft DirectX Media":
[img]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PpFS8WgAWx4/ToRaQnBr-kI/AAAAAAAAAJw/kYzvoLWkIIw/Installing3.png[/img]

Now click "OK"

Optional step: Now click on "Details" and admire Wine for reporting system stuff. Didn't used to be able to do that:
[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zUytLCz9SE0/ToSEuZpNVzI/AAAAAAAAALE/O7ms8g9KO_E/GreenGo.png[/img]

Now click "Install"

Click "OK":
[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4obK7GbDeI0/ToRaQru4iOI/AAAAAAAAAJs/I3bMMAYlTk4/Installing4.png[/img]

Watch the installer [i]not[/i] go over 100%:
[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FrVgHD5gcvM/ToRaQipMX9I/AAAAAAAAAJo/WOVeXhK8tjQ/Installing5.png[/img]

Click OK:
[img]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lRsPw2klIgY/ToRaQUGHQOI/AAAAAAAAAJk/KeEsdheeRTE/Installing6.png[/img]

If you want, read the readme:
[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-85yfuRpvrxI/ToRaQPpOzAI/AAAAAAAAAJg/_ZSE7y_dG1o/Installing7.png[/img]

You will get this error if Zeckensack's isn't installed. And it shouldn't be installed. It makes the situation worse.:
[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uxyn-o95vGw/ToRaP24X8jI/AAAAAAAAAJc/3X8n6OFUyXY/Installing8.png[/img]

So you know what? We pick the other configuration, Direct3D, that's what:
[img]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--gk76AjanVo/ToRaP8teSoI/AAAAAAAAAJY/KFg8xwKW94g/Installing9.png[/img]

Optional step: Now click on "details" and admire Wine for showing graphics info:
[img]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RPeJnpZNrs8/ToSEuIBkWFI/AAAAAAAAAK8/YkO4gutS_Tw/Other%252520Test_D3D.png[/img]

Click "Apply", and now the game will start. As it is loading, the screen will be all white for a while:
[img]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xepiSs8tYjI/ToSEt6oBc-I/AAAAAAAAAK0/-CW69qEpm94/White%252520Before%252520game.png[/img]

Had Zeckensack's been installed, it would have been black for a while instead of white. But more importantly, you would have gotten this error:
[img]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pxahW1xNdaI/ToSEtWm8rII/AAAAAAAAAKo/sT7AvzauTaA/Zeck%252520Fail.png[/img]

Now you should be here (after it loads):
[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kbgq2lXDLP4/ToRaRBSeT_I/AAAAAAAAAJ8/qiaoGVtrd-w/Hype%252520Start%252520in%252520Wine.png[/img]

You may now enjoy that Hype tune and satisfy (or tantilize) some nastalgia.
Unfortunately, that's all you can do right now. There's no way you can click "new game".

I tried this on a Desktop with an ATI graphics card:
Dell XPS 8300
Intel i7-2600 processor 64-bit @3.4 GHz
Winbond Motherboard
8 gigs of SODIMM DDR3 RAM @ 1333 MHz, 4 two-gig sticks, only 4 slots
Winbond A03 BIOS
[SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG (sound card)
ATI Redwood [Radeon HD 5670] (graphics card)

BTW, I used lshw to find that hardware info. ;)

Though I feel certain it is not a hardware problem. I've tried on my laptop with an earlier Wine version, same symptoms that that Wine version had on my desktop. Just looks like a user input bug, and more DirectX support would be nice.
Test Results
DistributionTest dateWine versionInstalls?Runs?RatingSubmitter
ShowLinux Mint 11 "Katya" x86_64Feb 05 20121.4-rc2 Yes Yes Bronze Jake Thomas 
ShowLinux Mint 11 "Katya" x86_64Oct 06 20111.3.29 Yes Yes Silver Jake Thomas 
CurrentLinux Mint 11 "Katya" x86_64Sep 29 20111.3.29 Yes No Garbage Jake Thomas 
ShowMac OS X 10.5 "Leopard"Oct 08 20101.2 No Not installable Garbage an anonymous user 


Known bugs
Bug # Description Status Resolution Other apps affected
29805 Hype The Time Quest: Some pre-game videos are not shown UNCONFIRMED View
29806 DirectX Software Test Causes Hype The Time Quest Installer to Fail UNCONFIRMED View
29809 Hype the Time Quest Installer Goes Over 100% UNCONFIRMED View

 

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32-bit Issue
by Jake Thomas on Sunday October 2nd 2011, 19:28
I got it working in 64-bit Linux, but it is hanging at a white screen in 32-bit. Maybe I just didn't have certain libraries when I compiled it. But I compiled it from source on 64-bit too. Hmm. I remember Battle for Naboo not working in WINE that I compiled from source, then I used the binary package, and it worked. Maybe it will be that way with Hype on 32-bit.

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Pictures
by Jake Thomas on Sunday October 2nd 2011, 16:17
Here are the two system checks I mention in "What works"
1. lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zUytLCz9SE0/ToSEuZpNVzI/AAAAAAAAALE/O7ms8g9KO_E/GreenGo.png

2. lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RPeJnpZNrs8/ToSEuIBkWFI/AAAAAAAAAK8/YkO4gutS_Tw/Other%252520Test_D3D.png

The common error I mention: lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HGIVTRklkJo/ToRaRfS8AwI/AAAAAAAAAKA/lG1lPwIO9Lk/Common%252520Error.png

The less common error I mention that Win2000 mode always yeilds: lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CeRQTy_QZCI/ToRaPh5qc7I/AAAAAAAAAJU/OdXZC2_6DtM/Other%252520Error.png

Where you used to dead end before we knew about the dinput override: lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kbgq2lXDLP4/ToRaRBSeT_I/AAAAAAAAAJ8/qiaoGVtrd-w/Hype%252520Start%252520in%252520WINE.png

Where you dead end if you use Zeckensack's: lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jO08GqCdRgk/ToRaRvc4AnI/AAAAAAAAAKE/Cu4J1jsR-88/Another%252520Error%25252C%252520with%252520Zeck.png

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It Works!
by Jake Thomas on Sunday October 2nd 2011, 16:07
Let's all give Andrew Millington a big hand for cracking this nut! The missing piece of the pie is a dll override for dinput. That's it! Then it works. Here's where that came from: bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28232#add_comment .

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