Application Details:
Version: | 10 |
License: | Retail |
URL: | http://www.scansoft.com/natura... |
Votes: | Marked as obsolete |
Latest Rating: | Bronze |
Latest Wine Version Tested: | 1.8.2 |
Maintainers: About Maintainership
What works
Installation runs fine without any Problem. I copied the whole CD Content in a local Folder before starting it with PlayOnLinux.
Dragon Pad works with all features, like training and replacing, adding new words etc.
The Dragon sidebar works as well as the icon in the system tray.
What does not
Dictating in other applications like Libre Office or other editors.
This is NOT a "does not work" since a program running under WINE can only communicate with other programs running concurrently under WINE.
You may notice that DNS running under native Windows cannot communicate with Libre Office or other programs running under Linux.
Workarounds
What was not tested
Hardware tested
Graphics:
Additional Comments
Installs and runs fine and without any problems. I use PlayOnLinux 4.2.1 to install the programm.
Operating system | Test date | Wine version | Installs? | Runs? | Used Workaround? | Rating | Submitter | ||
Show | Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy" i386 (+ variants like Kubuntu) | Apr 14 2016 | 1.8.2 | Yes | Yes | No | Bronze | Olivier Ernst | |
Show | Ubuntu 14.04 "Trusty" amd64 (+ variants like Kubuntu) | Apr 19 2014 | 1.6.2 | No, but has workaround | Yes | No | Bronze | an anonymous user | |
Show | Ubuntu 12.04 "Precise" amd64 (+ variants like Kubuntu) | Jul 05 2012 | 1.5.7 | No | Not installable | No | Garbage | Narcis Garcia | |
Show | Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty" i386 (+ variants like Kubuntu) | Jul 04 2012 | 1.5.7 | Yes | Yes | No | Gold | Narcis Garcia | |
Current | Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy" amd64 (+ variants like Kubuntu) | Apr 04 2014 | 1.4.1 | Yes | Yes | No | Gold | an anonymous user |
Bug # | Description | Status | Resolution | Other apps affected |
There are more complete installation and setup notes on the version 7 entry, many of which will also apply to v10 though expect some differences due to changes in WINE as well as DNS.
This should however be a useful reference.
The following notes were contributed by Gurdil to set up DNS 10 and Wine to work with Pulse Audio on *buntu . Not tested elsewhere but may well have broader application.
padsp command is the key and is pulse audio specific.
1. wget http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks
sh winetricks fontfix fontsmooth-gray gecko sound=oss gdiplus
2. Insert the installation CD then copy contents to the hard disk, ~/DNS for example
3. cd ~/DNS/issetupprerequisites, run "wine vcruntime.exe"
4. cd ~/DNS and run "wine setup". Proceed with the installation. At the end choose to register with printing something
5. run "padsp winecfg". Go to audio and choose alsa.
6. run DNS with: "padsp wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Nuance/NaturallySpeaking10/Program/natspeak.exe" If it crashes, run it again.
7. Now it should work. If it does not detect your microphome (or explains that sound is too low), try to configure your input device (menu>sound and video>pulse audio control)
Some editing commands work in notepad, and the recognition is still almost as fast as in DictationBox. For right now, I recommend dictating directly into Notepad.
The program no longer freezes when using Notepad. It sometimes still does after using DictationBox extensively. For instance, I dictate 4-6 paragraphs at a time, and after about the third session of that, the program sometimes behaves strangely. Usually what happens first is that the command "Transfer" does not drop text automatically into the other program.
Solution, just go to the other application -- be it wine or Linux -- and hit CTL-V and the text will drop.
Interesting note, unrelated to Wine... Dictation accuracy changes when switching from Notepad to DictationBox. Usually drops a bit at first.
These instructions are primarily for Ubuntu / Debian but should be helpful to other distros.
In terminal:
wget http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks
sh winetricks fontfix fontsmooth-gray gecko sound=oss
(also add gdiplus if you want a prettier DragonBar.)
winecfg
(in winecfg, go to audio tab and check oss driver only, then bump the default sample rate to 48000)
navigate to CD rom and type
wine setup
When evaluating install-menu options, remember that the program will need to run simply. Disable options that require searching your hard drive, automatic updating, sending data to Nuance, etc. Don't install or enable training.
The way to get fast, accurate dictation is to use Notepad or DictationBox. DragonPad works and has some extra commands but it is not as fast.
It also has some quirks. Default font cannot be changed, for instance.
Once you have the program up and running, you should be able to use Dictation Box, say "Transfer that" and then use CTL-V to paste into any running Linux application. To enable this feature, open Dictation Box / Settings, and check the box to keep transferred text on the clipboard.
Note: I compiled wine from git using ./configure --enable-win64 and NatSpeak ran just fine. (However, check your Natspeak version. Only 10.1 is 64-bit enabled.)
Additional Instructions:
As of 10.10 Ubuntu, pulseaudio is enabled by default. I have not had luck getting wine programs running with pulse. To disable it, edit /etc/pulse/client.conf to change # autospawn = yes to autospawn = no.
Then System/preferences/startup applications, uncheck everything that says pulse. Then reboot.
If you want to use a USB device, this must be set as the default device. So add to your home directory a file called .asoundrc that contains the following text. (This assumes that you have only two devices, that card 0 is your on-board and card 1 is your usb.)
pcm.!default {
type hw
card 1
}
ctl.!default {
type hw
card 1
}
It is my experience that the Nuance licensing daemon now counts each new version of wine as a "new operating system." Upgrades between, say Ubuntu Karmic and Ubuntu Lucid, also use up a license. And you also lose a license when you have NatSpeak installed twice on the same computer.
I had been installing test versions daily, always on the same machine, always using the latest wine git, and now can no longer do so. So new users may not want to install or test casually.
Note: Changing the Windows Version in winecfg counts as an operating system upgrade. For this reason, it is recommended to install DNS10 under an alternate $WINEPREFIX and leave it alone. Nuance recommends
un-installing the software with an active internet connection before
upgrading. This is supposed to prevent the activation count from incrementing. The "active internet connection" seems to require the optional winbind (samba-winbind) package available through your distro. If the license loss continues after un-installation, bug report it. http://nuance.custhelp.com