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Patched from 11.0 to 11.1.1
(note: there will be a couple more patches to come, which should presumably also work, will edit this when they become available and can test them...)

Application Details:

Version: 11.1.1
License: Retail
URL: http://www.footballmanager.com...
Votes: 1
Latest Rating: Silver
Latest Wine Version Tested: 1.2.2

Maintainers: About Maintainership

Test Results

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Selected Test Results

What works

Installing, running, playing. Currently in my 2nd season now.

The only crash I've experienced is after rejecting suggestions of feeder clubs, oddly enough.

What does not

I've not had any real problems, however see "Not tested"

Workarounds

What was not tested

Since I'm so old school, I always disable 2D/3D match view. Only commentary FTW! This is also down to my laptop being build for battery time, not processing power.. An Acer Aspire 3810T.

I've also not tested any form of multiplayer, adding/removing managers in-game or anything like that.

Hardware tested

Graphics:

  • GPU:
  • Driver:

Additional Comments

The game installs, runs and works just fine with stock version of Wine from Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal repo. No extra hacks or workarounds other than non-steam install and No-CD crack. However, the game is very slow. This computer has a weak CPU, but the game is quite laggy all the time, not only when the CPU is at work. I often have to click a button two or three times, or press and hold for a second before the button reacts. I do not know if this is down to the built-in version of dx9, if it's java-related or anything else. If somebody has a suggestion as to what would improve game speed I'd greatly appreciate it! My rating would be a blend of bronze and silver if possible, but I'll give it silver since it runs flawlessly except for speed.

selected in Test Results table below
Operating systemTest dateWine versionInstalls?Runs?Used
Workaround?
RatingSubmitter
CurrentUbuntu 11.04 "Natty" i386 (+ variants like Kubuntu)Feb 14 20111.2.2Yes Yes SilverCarl A. Myrland 
ShowUbuntu 10.10 "Maverick" amd64 (+ variants like Kubuntu)Nov 14 20101.2.1Yes Yes SilverVerrix 
ShowArch Linux x86_64Dec 15 20101.0.1Yes Yes GoldGuillaume 

Known Bugs

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HowTo / Notes

DLL Overrides and warning for some Nvidia users

From personal testing and user's in the threads the following workarounds work for fm2011.

Overrides

  • d3dx9_36
  • d3dx9_41
  • d3dx9_42
  • gameux (disabled)
  • wlanapi

 At the most you will need these to get fm2011 working.

 

Warning for some users

It seems that mostly Nvidia users are affected by this and in a variety of a distro's; basically if you run fm2011 and it doesn't come up straight away and your last msg involves the "cannot change backbuffer count yet "

A user suggested downloading a program called "stress" and running;

stress --cpu $(number of cores you have)

This seems to help the game load quicker, it doesn't work everytime. Alternatively you can wait (faster the computer, the longer it takes from testing). I also found running another direct3d game in a window elsewhere also helped (for me it was an EVE Online client)

Another warning, starting a new game from within a game (as in not from main menu) seems to result in the game hanging, it's as if it's restarting it's 3d engine which triggers the problem above. You would need to quit and start from main menu if it dies.

All credit to everyone involved.

Multiplayer Ports

Fm2011; 

10093 - TCP/UDP

10094 - TCP/UDP

Comments

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strange error
by zoltar on Sunday September 11th 2011, 7:26
when i launch the game, it crashes and returns this error :

Fatal Error!

Error reading application id. Please write it to steam_appid.txt or use the launcher.
Can't run FM11 (+ 11.3 patch)
by Lucas Tavolaro Ortiz on Friday May 27th 2011, 10:34
I get this error, which i read is kinda common:

paste.org/pastebin/view/34045

I tried desactivating the Pixel Shaders, but it didnt work. Here is some information of my video card and opengl support (I have the latest drivers installed i believe).

paste.org/pastebin/view/34046

Oh, and i have wine 1.3.20 (I had 1.2 and it had the same error so i tried with a newer version and the same thing happens).

Thanks!
RE: Can't run FM11 (+ 11.3 patch)
by Lucas Tavolaro Ortiz on Friday May 27th 2011, 10:36
Sorry, this is my card info (The other is cut):

paste.org/pastebin/view/34047
RE: Can't run FM11 (+ 11.3 patch)
by Maquis196 on Friday May 27th 2011, 11:15
Next time you need to do something away from the computer (or maybe just browse youtube) run wine fm.exe and go do something else.

I have no idea what causes it, I don't know how to fix it and you might have another problem, but for me the game seems to pause after that cant change backbuffer count message.

On my home pc, it takes about 20mins but the game loads, and once loaded, it runs perfectly. On my laptop its more like 8mins so the better your computer the longer it takes? Could indicate a timeout error or it's slowly filling ram up or something.

Give that a go, if it doesn't work after 30mins then we'll look elsewhere for the problem
RE: Can't run FM11 (+ 11.3 patch)
by Lucas Tavolaro Ortiz on Friday May 27th 2011, 12:38
Ok, i left it running, and this happened:

First, i dunno when, but new messages started to appear:


err:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_Reset Cannot change the back buffer count yet
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x313e1cc,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x313e1cc,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:powrprof:GetActivePwrScheme (0x32f658) stub!

(The last message is repeated a lot of times)

The windows is now "black" and when i put the cursor near the middle of the windows a small blue rectangles appears near to it.

I will leave it running, but i have waited an hour so far :s
RE: Can't run FM11 (+ 11.3 patch)
by Lucas Tavolaro Ortiz on Friday May 27th 2011, 12:40
Also it is using 245464k of RAM memory and 4% of my CPU power.
RE: Can't run FM11 (+ 11.3 patch)
by Maquis196 on Friday May 27th 2011, 14:10
Hhmm, it does look like it's working properly without the graphics... did you use this overrides;

d3dx9_36
d3dx9_41
d3dx9_42
wlanapi
msvcr80
gameux = disable

Get them on native and then try again, and we'll see where to go from there :)

Maq
RE: Can't run FM11 (+ 11.3 patch)
by Lucas Tavolaro Ortiz on Friday May 27th 2011, 19:59
Same: "fixme:powrprof:GetActivePwrScheme (0x32fa40) stub!"

I put the libraries ok now (I guess): oi56.tinypic.com/2wbx2me.jpg

Is that ok?
And also, now i can see a football image displaying below my cursor, so something seems better :P
RE: Can't run FM11 (+ 11.3 patch)
by Maquis196 on Friday May 27th 2011, 20:20
Yeah looks alright, my fm is still taking forever to load up but it gets there. It seems to be an nvidia issue as well.

Again, leave it for a while and see what happens!
RE: Can't run FM11 (+ 11.3 patch)
by Lucas Tavolaro Ortiz on Saturday May 28th 2011, 21:13
Ok, i left it for 6 hours and nothing happened... only the mouse changes in some parts, but the screen is black.
Virtual Desktop
by Sebastian on Thursday April 7th 2011, 1:55
It works like a charm, using this how-to! However, setting the virtual desktop to 1024 x 768 is not necessary, I can play with 1920 x 1080 equally well, using ubuntu 10.10 and wine 1.2.2...Just sayin' ^^

GrTz Sebastian
FM crashes every time I try to move on after a match
by Sigurd Lund on Saturday January 15th 2011, 14:13
When the match is finished and I have watched the statistics and stuff it crashes when I try to move on. Once I tried to go on a holiday when the match was played, and nothing happend then. But it's  not so cool going on holidays every time it's a match.

Here's my output:
pastebin.com/Gweffhwz
RE: FM crashes every time I try to move on after a match
by Verrix on Monday January 24th 2011, 17:08
Hmmm odd... Sounds more like an FM issue than a wine one.

It could just be a bad install is my first thought. Re-install and patch to newest version on official site if none of the following work.

Have you managed to get this error to repeat? If so then first of all, go into ''preferences'' and lower all the settings that might be straining your computer, I have no idea what the spec on your machine is...

How many leagues and how large a game database do you have? No more than a dozen leagues and medium database (for a damned decent PC) is recommended as more than this and you start to notice a lot more crashes. Less is better sometimes, and realistically, how many leagues do you end up managing anyway? I never play with more than the major euro + brazil & arg. leagues and the game has plenty of quality players and good teams!
RE: FM crashes every time I try to move on after a match
by Sigurd Lund on Monday February 7th 2011, 13:05
I tried to take fewer leagues now, but It still crashes. My computer should not be the problem. When I was setting up the game they gave me 5/5 stars and all that. I have i7 and 6 gig ram..
Result!
by Nick M on Thursday December 30th 2010, 11:24
You, my man are a legend! It owrks perfectly.

Not being able to play FM in 3D was the only issue stopping me from moving completely to Linux.
RE: Result!
by Verrix on Sunday January 23rd 2011, 6:04
no problem :)

by fogtrin on Friday December 10th 2010, 9:48
got it! everythings works properly
problem
by fogtrin on Tuesday December 7th 2010, 7:22
hey, this is my output, please help. im using debian and wine 1.1.42

fixme:powrprof:GetActivePwrScheme (0x33fb04) stub!
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {9a5ea990-3034-4d6f-9128-01f3c61022bc} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {9a5ea990-3034-4d6f-9128-01f3c61022bc} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:wtsapi:WTSRegisterSessionNotification Stub 0x1006e 0x00000000
err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly
fixme:d3d_caps:wined3d_guess_card No card selector available for GL vendor 4 and card vendor 0000.
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x313e3b4,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:wtsapi:WTSRegisterSessionNotification Stub 0x20076 0x00000000
err:d3d:WineD3D_ChoosePixelFormat Can't find a suitable iPixelFormat
X Error of failed request: GLXBadDrawable
Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX)
Minor opcode of failed request: 5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)
Serial number of failed request: 1083
Current serial number in output stream: 1083
RE: problem
by Maquis196 on Tuesday December 7th 2010, 8:31
Hey, usual questions;

Does opengl work on your system properly? What about other direct3d games?

Then it comes down to your direct3d options; is vertex shaders on hardware and allow pixel shader enabled?

Cheers,
Maq
RE: problem
by fogtrin on Friday December 10th 2010, 9:43
hey, i updadted wine and graphics drivers and now fm working, but still doesnt work 2d or 3d view in match, but highlights works well. Weird. Any suggestions?
3d bug report
by Maquis196 on Friday November 19th 2010, 8:07
All, as you can see I've submitted a bug report, feel free to go in and confirm it with your own details.

I'll submit a second 2d bug at somepoint as well. If that was fixed I don't think most of us would care about 3d mode
RE: 3d bug report
by Verrix on Friday December 10th 2010, 8:49
Got it working in 3d for me! :D
Edited the instructions above, post if you can confirm it works for you.
Cheers!
RE: 3d bug report
by fogtrin on Friday December 10th 2010, 9:45
how you do this?
on my comupter match 2d and 3d doesnt work but highlights did.
RE: 3d bug report
by fogtrin on Friday December 10th 2010, 9:48
got it! everythings works properly
RE: 3d bug report
by Verrix on Saturday December 11th 2010, 7:49
Right well, the old bug seems to have returned! :/ This only appeared after restarting my machine though. Going to reinstall and see if the issue is still there...

THE GAME WORKS THOUGH!

This is totally devoid of logic, but sometimes loading the game works and well sometimes it just freezes (comfirmed via lack of cpu doing anything useful in system monitor after ~5 seconds). I've heard of a similar thing occuring on FM 2010...

Sometimes the game will load on the first try, sometimes the twentieth. It's extremely annoying and there's no explanation, but it looks like the bug is still with us...

You can get rid of the pixel shader option, but then you're in 2D, although that bug seems to have disappeared now even more bizarrely.
Terminal output
by Luca on Tuesday November 16th 2010, 18:33
This is my terminal output, if someone is intrested... Also, I previously forgot to say that I can see the cursor perfectly, and the screen is a combination of black and a deep blue. Like dark blue where a window should be and black all around, but that doesn't happen every time I launch the game. Also I can't see the credits, instead all I see is a flashing screen, flashing with white, black, and light blue.

Terminal output: pastebin.com/pFHpyQPX

I hope this helps somehow :(
Still not working for me
by Paolo on Monday November 15th 2010, 2:44
I'm trying with 1.2.1 wine version but I always get a black screen once launched the game.

Here's my output: pastebin.com/SF6SgT6Y

As you may have noticed, I had to kill the process.
RE: Still not working for me
by Luca on Monday November 15th 2010, 18:21
I have the exact same problem. By installing FM2011 this way it always starts (previously it started randomly, some times it did, some times it didn't), but I can't see any graphics, not even the credits. I don't have a graphics card though... I have an Intel 865G chipset, if I remember correctly.

And by the way 'sh winetricks d3dx' doesn't do anything, since d3dx doesn't exist... I tried installing d3dx9 but to no avail.
RE: Still not working for me
by Maquis196 on Tuesday November 16th 2010, 2:22
Hi, I think he meant d3dx9, I had tried that as well to no avail. I'm starting to think that were going to need to raise a bug for this game.

I'm more inclined to change the rating to garbarge as well but how can I when the game clearly CAN work fine lol, talk about trying to unlock pandora's box.

Fm generated some crash reports itself for me once, but I doubt SI would be interested in helping out what they call a "tiny unsupported market".
RE: Still not working for me
by Verrix on Tuesday November 16th 2010, 12:57
All: yes, d3dx9 indeed sorry, i have edited this in the main article.

Paolo, try upgrading the drivers, particularly if you're using a beta version for your graphics card, say... quite a long and impressive error log you have there, but there is significant overlap with my own generated errors coupled with the fact that i CAN get past the loading screens makes me think that you tweaking with things a bit could work.

Luca, are you 100% sure that you meet the minimum spec for this game? otherwise, i would give you the same advice that i gave Paolo...

Maquis, yes, it now appears to crash on me ''at random'' when i get to actually playing a match, so i've lowered it to bronze (still holding out on the hope that i won't have to garbage it!). obviously, i didn't test it for long enough intially and i have yet been able to play a full match without a crash dump situ. :/ makes me think there are separate issues here (i.e. you, paolo, luca not being able to load the game. me with the actual running of the game, probably hardware issues based on what the crash dump .dmp file appears to be telling me)

Unfortunately, as i do not own any of your machines, and the above process works perfectly for me (asides from random crashes once playing) experimenting with the settings one step at a time until it does work for you or until your patience gives in appears to be all you can do. If we get to this stage, doing as Maquis quite rightly suggests and filing a bug-report with Sports Interactive is the next step, but I share his view on the (lack of) likelihood of success with this approach.
RE: Still not working for me
by Luca on Tuesday November 16th 2010, 14:42
I'm afraid there are no drives I know of for my chipset. It's a really old computer :(
I was able to play FM2010 on Windows and it worked fine, didn't try it on Linux though. I also tried changing various settings, but still I can't see anything. Also I read somewhere that you can't click anything during 2D matches or the game will crash but, obviously, I couldn't test it. Maybe this is your issue?
RE: Still not working for me
by Verrix on Friday November 19th 2010, 6:05
Yeah, I had 2010 and 2011 working on winblows too... Out of curiousity
what OS are you using? (If Ubuntu go into the software centre and search for ''additional drivers''. There might be an equivalent way of doing this if you have a different type of linux)

Yup, you hit the nail on the head... It crashes whenever I click in a match/ whenever someone scores and it tries to replay the goal... So theoretically I can only play a game if I don't click AT ALL and no-one scores/ I turn off replays... Seems a little less fun that way

Verrix
RE: Still not working for me
by Paolo on Wednesday November 17th 2010, 2:40
The problem is that I have exactly your drivers installed (nvidia 260.19.06). :D
RE: Still not working for me
by Verrix on Friday November 19th 2010, 6:08
Aha :P Right then... You did untick the "allow pixel shader" box under the 'Graphics' tab in winecfg, didn't you? Unfortunately, all the meddling I've had to do with this game to get it to even load means no 3D matches, but at least it gives me a shot at playing in 2D...

Verrix
RE: Still not working for me
by Footux on Tuesday November 16th 2010, 13:02
I think yo could ask to SI somes questions because Miles Jacobson is ready to help linux community as far as possible. When he came to Paris for the release of the game he told us some developpers of the game are playing the game with Linux...
RE: Still not working for me
by Verrix on Tuesday November 16th 2010, 15:28
Malheureusement...

Miles Jacobson said the following:
(in the very same thread that you posted in incidentally...)

''I've said this each time that it's brought up, but there are no plans for us to support Linux now, or in the forseeable future.

Testing the game on the operating systems that the game is available on already takes a huge amount of investment and time. Adding more operating systems (and there are many variations of Linux) into this process, plus the post release support that would be needed, is simply not a viable option as a business or as a developer, let alone the actual cost to convert and develop.

There are lots of ways to get the game working for those on Linux OS', and they are well documented, so the option is there for those users, just like they have the option whether to use Linux or any of it's flavours. However, we do not offer support for those options, as we haven't tested them, nor are we about to.''

Doesn't look hopeful tbh.
Back to wine people :P
RE: Still not working for me
by Maquis196 on Tuesday November 16th 2010, 18:02
Yeah it simply doesn't look good. Luckily for me I've just shelled out for a brand new gaming rig (excited :)) so once thats up and running I want to make more of an effort.

I've tweaked wine as much as I can with this, tried all manner of things even writing them down and redoing them, short of rebooting after each step (in case something is left in memory) the same thing rarely works twice :-/.

The worst bit is, I have played the game perfectly well! So its frustrating to know it can be done. The last steps really are debugging mode and preferably dtrace, ive used dtrace at work to fix many many issues, its like amazing (even fixed an issue once by noticing which locale was being used by the program that dtrace reported)

In that crash dump that was reported moaning about dll's, are they ones we can get off a winxp install? I notice dll-files doesn't exactly have them all. I have access to winxp 32bit if anyone needs any...

Cheers,
Maq
RE: Still not working for me
by Verrix on Friday November 19th 2010, 5:59
Yup, I've tried all manner of playing around with wine and I still can't manage to complete a whole match. I've combed through winetricks for anything that might help, and I've even resorted throwing in some of my XP .dll's when wine doesn't have one I need. (btw xp can only be 32-bit :D, no 64-ness) However, some of these hijacked .dll's throw their own errors too... Do you think it would matter which service pack you have installed on the XP you're nicking 'dll's from? If so, then which service pack (if any) does wine claim it's version of XP has?

Thanks,
Verrix
RE: Still not working for me
by Maquis196 on Friday November 19th 2010, 6:50
Oh there is a 64bit XP alright :). Wasn't very popular but it's out there (and was based on win2003 if I recall).

I mentioned xp because I once got a 64bit DLL off windows 7 which caused all manner of problems lol.

It seems we know for certain that 2d match is simply too buggy for wine, it's funny since we know that 3d match when it works is flawless! My new computer parts haven't turned up yet, I'm hoping for Tuesday now and that will allow me to try dtrace, but it's so annoying how 3d SOMETIMES works.

Then theres the different results between changing windows versions in winecfg. The only thing I can think of trying for now is downgrading nvidia drivers, or try an older version of linux? I mention that because Im an eve online player and the latest versions of glibc cause errors that aren't present in say Debian.

I'll get a bug report going later, try and get some devs involved since I think we've all admitted defeat.
Gfx card
by Maquis196 on Sunday November 14th 2010, 7:09
Oh I almost forgot... can you post your gfx card details and driver version please, were trying to work out if thats an issue with this game.

Cheers
Maq
RE: Gfx card
by Verrix on Sunday November 14th 2010, 11:08
yeah sure :)
I have an Nvidia GeForce GT 130M
Cardtype: PCI-E 16x
Video RAM: 1024 MB
GPU frequency: 600 MHz
Driver version: 260.19.06

Hope this helps
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