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The Master Genealogist

The Master Genealogist (TMG) - based on Visual FoxPro v9 released 22 April 2013.

Application Details:

Version: 8.08.000
License: Retail
URL: http://www.whollygenes.com/
Votes: 1
Latest Rating: Garbage
Latest Wine Version Tested: 3.14

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What works

Instructions for installing in a separate wine installation are given  in "Extra comments" below.

An msi file is extracted as shown and this installs fine. DO NOT TRY to install with the ,exe file. Before  that winetricks are used to add IE7, Visual Basic and Visual C++ and fonts. Winecfg is run to all some dlls.

As with TMG7, the mfc42.dll installed by Visual C++ does not work and you will need to replace this with v6.0.400 filesize c972.1k. Google this file and you will get lots of sources.

Reports (as in Individual Detail) print fine but depends of version of tahoma.ttf MS v1.00 works but not 2,26. (Any version of tahomabd.ttf seems OK.) Wine tahoma fonts from https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=28630  are fine too. Otherwise report shows but fonts do not render. Make sure that the permissions on the ttf files are correct - see below. NB winetricks will probably download one of the tahoma verions that does not work and you just copy the new ttf files into directory .wine.../drive_c/windows/fonts.

Printing works from the default printer. If it does not check that the tahoma fonts files are as above.

What does not

Help does not work cos "the native implementation of OLEAUT32.DLL cannot be used with wines RPCRT4.DLL". TMG8 will not work with builin OLEAUT32. Navigate to help folder and use a linux command to view.

Help>Check for anUpdate - DO NOT USE it will wreck your installation. Download the new steup file from wholly genes.org and install as above.

NB mfc42.dll installed by Visual C++ needs to be replaced with v6.0.400 filesize c972.1k. If this is not done you will see not found OLE errors.

Workarounds

What was not tested

I used the sample file and all that I tested worked but it is a huge complex program. From my experience using TMG704 in wine & CrossOver if the basics run then most other things that matter do as well.

Hardware tested

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Additional Comments

(TMG v8.00.000) Below is a list of commands, almost at script to install TMG8 v8.08 in wine v1.6. Use the version you need from whollygenes.org. I used the UK version. It installs in a separate directory ~..wineTMG8New20130804_2 and not the regular .wine. Be sure to run export WINEPREFIX= to set this correctly before each attempt to use TMG8. It may install correctly in .wine but I am not sure because it may interfere with, for example, TMG7 if that is installed. export WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 ### create the WINEPREFIX to make the inst of wine $WINEPREFIX cd ~/ ### allows winetricks to run env WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 sh winetricks ### test winetricks works env WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 sh winetricks ie7 ### install ie7 & run once. env WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 sh winetricks winxp ### set bottle to winxp env WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 sh winetricks corefonts env WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 sh winetricks vb6run ### install Visual Basic 6 runtime env WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 sh winetricks vcrun6sp6 ### install VisualBasic 6 service Pack6 sets "*msvcrt"="native,builtin" ### change later in wineconfig in next line export WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 ### create the WINEPREFIX to make the inst of wine env WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 winecfg ### when this runs change "*msvcrt" to "builtin then native" env WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 sh winetricks native_oleaut32 env WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 sh winetricks tahoma ### tahoma.ttf v1.00 works later ones do not check at website below for others ### http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=238 ### wine_tahoma work as well from https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=28630 ### env WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 sh winetricks cd ~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2/drive_c/ ### change to dir of cp /media/AcerWinData/Downloads/GenealogySoftware/TheMasterGenealogist/TMG8/tmg808uksetup.exe . dir env WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 wine tmg808uksetup.exe /extract dir ### check for presence of drive1.cab & tmg8uksetup.msi wine msiexec /i tmg8uksetup.msi ### install TMG7 look at terminal for errors - copy output to text file for later checks cd ~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2/drive_c/windows/system32 mv mfc42.dll mfc42.dll.OriginalFromWine dir mfc* cp mfc42.dll ### replace this with v6.0.400 filesize c972.1k.Google for this. dir mfc* ### check it is there ### Now check permissions of font files cd ~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2/drive_c/windows/fonts dir -l ### they should be -rw-r--r-- cd ~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2/drive_c/Program\ Files/The\ Master\ Genealogist\ v8/ ### change to wine installation export WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 ### make sure your are using correct wine env WINEPREFIX=~/.wineTMG8New20130804_2 wine tmg8.exe

selected in Test Results table below
Operating systemTest dateWine versionInstalls?Runs?Used
Workaround?
RatingSubmitter
ShowUbuntu 16.04 "Xenial" amd64 (+ variants like Kubuntu)Aug 22 20183.14No Not installable NoGarbageSam 
ShowUbuntu 14.04 "Trusty" amd64 (+ variants like Kubuntu)Dec 19 20151.8No Not installable GarbageSam 
ShowUbuntu 14.10 "Utopic" amd64 (+ variants like Kubuntu)Dec 04 20141.7.31No Not installable GarbageSam 
ShowArch Linux x86_64Mar 03 20141.7.13No Not installable GarbageSam 
CurrentLinux Mint 13 "Maya"Aug 06 20131.6Yes Yes SilverIan 

Known Bugs

Bug # Description Status Resolution Other apps affected
7156 Multiple apps need wingdings.ttf NEW View

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HowTo / Notes

HOWTO (Basic) Install TMG (5/6/7/8/9) into the default wine c drive ­(Updated: 2018-05-03)





Wine 1.6.2 or greater is recommended
NOTE: Instructions vary depending on the version of The Master Genealogist (TMG) you install.

  • For versions 5/6/7 you can install with no special settings;
  • For version 8/9 direct installation is only possible with a workaround for the installer.

The advice listed below is only for
those who require help installing, running, or troubleshooting TMG.



Download the TMG version of the installer you are interested in:
TMG Version Download URL
TMG 5.15 USA Version http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg5setup.exe
TMG 5.15 UK Version http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg5uksetup.exe
TMG 6.12 USA Version http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg6setup.exe
TMG 6.12 UK Version http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg6uksetup.exe
TMG 7.04 USA Version http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg7setup.exe
TMG 7.04 UK Version http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg7uksetup.exe
TMG 8.08 USA Version http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg8setup.exe
TMG 8.08 UK Version http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg8uksetup.exe
TMG 9.05 USA Version http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg9setup.exe
TMG 9.05 UK Version http://www.whollygenes.com/files/tmg9uksetup.exe



Installation:

Run the installer (you download) using Wine (substituting the correct version name):







wine tmg7setup.exe



After installation and before running program for the first time


With Wine set to "Windows XP" use the script Winetricks to install the following:


  • vb6run
  • gdiplus
  • msxml6  *  
  • wsh56  *

(* Optional - only needed if you are installing On This Day/­Second Site/TMG Utility into the same wineprefix (See advanced howto )


Using the following command:


sh winetricks vb6run gdiplus


Then using winetricks choose: native_oleaut32


(Optional but recommended)If you have Windows XP Licence.  Copy the following font to your wine font directory ( c:\windows\Fonts\ )


  • wingding.ttf


* Visual Chartform (Graphical Charts) just works in wine 1.6.2 or greater.
* Text Reports and Preview just works in wine 1.6.2 or greater



For Help to Work


To use help in TMG 7.04 (+Visual Chartform) or greater install the Linux program xCHM and then using xCHM navigate to the following directory in your wine install:


C:\Program Files\The Master Genealogist\TMG.chm


C:\Program Files\The Master Genealogist\Vcf2.chm


Note:Help file for TMG 5.15 & TMG 6.12.00 work with no additional programs needed (As they use the .hlp format for the help files)


Running TMG for the first time:

Use the icon created on your desktop "The Master Genealogist"


Or run the following command from a Terminal


wine "C:\Program Files\The Master Genealogist\tmg7.exe"


Note: Before running any reports/charts in TMG for the first time  go into TMG's File > "Printer Setup" and change the Printer to *selected and choose your printer eg:in my case "HP Laserjet PS" as well as choosing the correct paper size and tray. Other wise you will see the following error:


"no printer is installed so the document could not be constructed."


To workaround the installer bug 34989  for tmg8 & 9 installers

Run wine to create a profile.

wine tmg9setup.exe /extract

* This will create two files  tmg9setup.msi & drive.cab in the same directory.

Note tmg9setup.exe will not run without the /extract at the front. It will fail due to bug 34989


The above command extracts the MS installation file which runs OK with the following command (add path to file as required):


wine msiexec /i tmg9setup.msi


Follow TMG's installers prompts

(Based on Ians instructions in test https://www.codeweavers.com/co... )



Troubleshooting:

  • Use the latest version of Wine. Type 'wine --version' if you are unsure.

Based on a codeweavers entry by Ian

Comments

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TMG7, 8, 9 in wine
by Ian on Monday December 8th 2014, 5:35
I am really pleased to see this site cleaned up, Sam.
Your explanations seem clear and as far as I can remember just fine.
I maintained this site for several years will it all got too much for me! So all power to you.

You can also use PlayOnLinx to install see
homepage.ntlworld.com/hamamelis/linux/index.htm

My versions of the instructions which you give clearly here can be seen in the POL script:
homepage.ntlworld.com/hamamelis/linux/POL/TMG9V4DLLAllDefault.pol

The advantage may be that in the future TMG is not so easy to install with current versions of wine. dll tweeking is always required and I find it easier to stick to one version of wine.
RE: TMG7, 8, 9 in wine
by Ian on Monday December 8th 2014, 17:23
I have just had an email from WhollyGenes to say that the latest version of TMG is now available version 9.5. This is the last update because they have ceased trading and no longer sell TMG. These versions can be obtained here:
US edition: whollygenes.swmirror.com/tmg9setup.exe
UK edition: whollygenes.swmirror.com/tmg9uksetup.exe

9.5 installs fine in wine as precisely outlined by Sam (and my note above about POL.)

I am sorry to see the end of TMG because I believe it is one of the most refined genealogy programs for researchers.
I am moving over to using Gramps. gramps-project.org/

Kind wishes, Ian.
RE: TMG7, 8, 9 in wine
by Ian on Monday December 8th 2014, 17:24
I have just had an email from WhollyGenes to say that the latest version of TMG is now available version 9.5. This is the last update because they have ceased trading and no longer sell TMG. These versions can be obtained here:
US edition: whollygenes.swmirror.com/tmg9setup.exe
UK edition: whollygenes.swmirror.com/tmg9uksetup.exe
You need a serial number.

9.5 installs fine in wine as precisely outlined by Sam (and my note above about POL.)

I am sorry to see the end of TMG because I believe it is one of the most refined genealogy programs for researchers.
I am moving over to using Gramps. gramps-project.org/

Kind wishes, Ian.
RE: TMG7, 8, 9 in wine
by Sam on Wednesday December 10th 2014, 18:12
Hi Ian,

Good to know.

I'm also in the process of moving over to Gramps.

Thank you.
Sam
TMG v9.01 installs
by Ian on Wednesday March 5th 2014, 7:43
TMG v9.01 installs in wine v1.6.1 using the instructions for TMG8 at
appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=25030

Change any references to tmg8setup to tmg9setup adding uk if needed.
It is essential to extract the .msi file. Without it the installer (which is no longer the graphical one used by TMG8), hangs trying to write file just after the End User Agreement.
I did not test very much but backup, Visual Chart Form, document reports and data entry all worked as I expected. So I would expect everything to work.

I installed this in my general .wine installation and it did not appear to affect my TMG7 installation which is the one that I used. However, in an installation without dlls required for TMG7 you may need to alter some setttings in wineconfig. If you watch the terminal output you will see if there are any significant problems.
RE: TMG v9.01 installs
by Sam on Sunday December 7th 2014, 15:54
I gather you meant the instructions in your test result:

appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=25030&iTestingId=80035
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