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Logos Bible Software (Verbum)

Logos Bible Software is a digital library application designed for electronic Bible study. In addition to basic eBook functionality, it

includes extensive resource linking, note-taking functionality, and
linguistic analysis for study of the Bible both in translation and in
its original languages. It is developed by Faithlife Corporation. Logos
Bible resource catalog includes more than 43,000 titles related to the
Bible from 200 publishers, including Baker, Bantam, Catholic University
of America Press, Eerdmans, Harvest House, Merriam Webster, Moody Press,
Oxford University Press, Thomas Nelson, Tyndale House, and Zondervan.
Logos also recently published its own Lexham Bible Reference series,
featuring new scholarship on the original Biblical languages. (edited
from Wikipedia)

Application Details:

Version: Logos / Verbum 10
License: Retail
URL: http://www.logos.com
Votes: 200
Latest Rating: Silver
Latest Wine Version Tested: 9.10

Maintainers: About Maintainership

Free Download or verbum.com

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What works

Logos / Verbum 10 for Linux Unofficial Release Notes

Good news, it works!
You can run Logos 10 on Linux from release day… and yes it was a challenge getting it ready for you all - enjoy!
With special thanks to: Bradley Grainger (from Faithlife) and our Beta Linux Group: James Bernard, Frank Sauer, Taylor Wright, and John Goodman.

Behind the scenes:
We are very grateful to Faithlife! With the release of Logos 10, we have seen significant signs of concern for Linux customers. Firstly, they allowed a limited few of us early access in order to work on it so that it could be ready for release day. Secondly, we have seen them bugfix code and make it work for Linux - which is a wonderful gesture. Thirdly, we continue to have occasional interaction and advice from Devs.

 
Linux remains officially unsupported but we are moving in the right direction! 

For support use Telegram https://t.me/linux_logos

Or Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#logosbibl...


Getting the dotnet patch into staging is a big win. The installation is much simpler than before owing to the use of dotnet 6 and some extra bundling of dependencies in the Logos installer. Many users may find no custom config is needed and you don�t need to install the linux version of dotnet 6 either.


Install Procedure:
Please make a full backup of your data!
Install wine 7.18 staging or newer (a required patch is only in staging, earlier versions won�t run or will crash intermittently)
    mkdir Logos10
    cd Logos10
    mkdir data
    WINEPREFIX=~/Logos10/data winecfg (set win ver to 10)
    WINEPREFIX=~/Logos10/data winetricks settings fontsmooth=rgb
(probably not needed)
    WINEPREFIX=~/Logos10/data winetricks settings renderer=gdi (optional in wine but not needed in proton)
run the LogosInstaller.exe (note the download progress slider doesn�t work but it is downloading)
    WINEPREFIX=~/Logos10/data wine64 LogosInstaller.exe
Run Logos
    WINEPREFIX=~/Logos10/data wine64 ./data/drive_c/users/$USER/AppData/Local/Logos/Logos.exe

Traffic Lights Colour System. Green (fix exists / is coming soon), Amber (no fix but still usable), Red (bug prevents daily driver usage)


Known issues (also present in Logos 9):

  1. G gdi renderer is needed to avoid black box graphical glitches. This is fixed in proton which can use the default gl renderer without any problems. The fix is in proton not dotnet 6. We expect wine will be patched with this update soon. https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47837
  2. A Printing only works with win7 set in winecfg. https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53580
  3. G All downloaded resources are wiped when an application update is installed. I think this is fixed in proton experimental. I also think I�ve isolated the patch… I have been unable to address this until the public release but hopefully we will have a fix out soon.  https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49767
  4. G Media playback issues: Audiobooks seems to be fixed in proton and since wine 7.15 staging. Videos still don't play but you can stream via the web app. https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47905
  5. A Some of the menus require a double click to open after having been opened once already - https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52380
  6. A Read aloud / text to voice doesn't work - https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47922

Known issues in Logos 10 not present in Logos 9:

  1. G Media browser and some images don�t show. A patch is included in proton which fixes this. I have not yet been able to isolate it but it should be possible with a full regression test. The patch will likely land in wine without intervention anyway so look out for an update soon.
  2. G Searching causes a crash in proton… otherwise I would recommend that instead of wine because the media browser works, the fix is present in wine though so proton will likely get an update without intervention.
  3. G The download progress bar in the installer doesn�t progress as it download the msi. This is such a minor niggle we will report it but consider it a WONTFIX. 
  4. A GE-Proton and GE-Wine may well be useful soon but there is a regression in one of them which causes a launch crash. It is fairly important we find this and try to get it fixed otherwise we might see it merged into wine. A regression test is needed.
  5. R dotnet 6 apps all crash on load - fixed in wine 7.15 staging
  6. R Logos crashes on load every 2nd time due to dictionary file error - fixed in wine 7.18 staging
  7. R crash every time something is typed in the commad box - fixed
  8. R installer fails to run without .net 4.8 installed, mono works! - fixed not needed at all


Better than in Logos 9:

  1. Occasional indexer crashes in Logos 8-9 seem not to be present in Logos 10 - https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50227
  2. No need to separately install dotnet48 (was very unreliable and took ages)
  3. No need to install corefonts.
  4. With proton gl rendering with hardware acceleration works!
  5. Audio books play!
  6. Everything is faster, installation is drastically faster, indexing is also much faster, other areas also improved.

Given the above, my own choice is to use it as my daily driver… I think most people will feel it is reliable enough for day to day work. However, our testing pool is very small - just 4 of us so early adopters do so at their own risk! Please make a full backup of your data!




What does not

Videos don't play.

The media browser does not work.

Printing doesn't work.

Sometimes updating wipes all downloaded resources.

Workarounds

Videos & Media can be accessed from the web app.

There is a patch in proton for media browser

Printing can work with windows version set to 7 but then updates won't happen.

Backup downloads or just download them again.

What was not tested

It has many features I'm sure we missed a few.

Hardware tested

Graphics:

  • GPU: AMD
  • Driver: open source

Additional Comments

Only wine staging 7.18 works. Before that it will crash intermittently. Before 7.15 staging it will always crash.

I have tried on latest Ubuntu as well as Steam OS.

selected in Test Results table below
Operating systemTest dateWine versionInstalls?Runs?Used
Workaround?
RatingSubmitter
ShowSteamOS 3.xJun 25 20249.10Yes Yes YesSilverJohn Goodman 
ShowLinux Mint 21.3Feb 19 20249.0No Not installable NoGarbageRandy 
CurrentSteamOS 3.xOct 10 20227.18-stagingYes Yes YesSilverJohn Goodman 

Known Bugs

Bug # Description Status Resolution Other apps affected
47837 Logos 8 Bible Software (.Net 4.7.2 app) has graphics glitches UNCONFIRMED View
47905 Logos 8 Bible Software (.NET 4.7 app) fails to play media (crashes in MF/EVR) NEW View
47922 Logos 8/9 Bible Software (.NET 4.7 app) crashes when using 'Read Aloud / System Narrator' on selected passage NEW View
49767 Logos 8 Bible Software (.Net 4.7 app): All existing resources are deleted during app update NEEDINFO View
52380 Logos Bible Software (.NET app) menus glitching, flickering and not showing UNCONFIRMED View
53354 Wine should provide icu.dll UNCONFIRMED View
53580 Logos 9 Bible Software printing doesn't work in Win10 mode UNCONFIRMED View
54870 Logos Bible 10 (dotnet 6) crashes trying to load image UNCONFIRMED View

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Comments

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Workaround for missing libicu | Property: HASICUINDLL, Signature:SystemIcuinDllSearch
by Stefan Damm on Monday June 24th 2024, 5:38
Here a workaround for the error:
open a terminal (e.g. bash) in your wine prefix drive_c

execute

wget github.com/unicode-org/icu/releases/download/release-75-1/icu4c-75_1-Win64-MSVC2022.zip
unzip icu4c-75_1-Win64-MSVC2022.zip
cd bin64/
cp *.dll ../../windows/syswow64/
cd ../../windows/syswow64
ln -s icudt75.dll icudt.dll
ln -s icuin75.dll icuin.dll
ln -s icuio75.dll icuio.dll
ln -s icutu75.dll icutu.dll
ln -s icuuc75.dll icuuc.dll

What this does is download an official icu release and copy the dlls to the syswow directory (where they are in windows 10).
Workaround for missing libicu | Property: HASICUINDLL, Signature:SystemIcuinDllSearch
by Stefan Damm on Saturday June 29th 2024, 17:12
This is the wrong icu version, seems version 52 is required instead of 75.
It is good enough to get past the installer but not fitting enough to run Logos.
Workaround for missing libicu | Property: HASICUINDLL, Signature:SystemIcuinDllSearch
by John Goodman on Saturday June 29th 2024, 20:13
At the moment I'm recommending using the windows icu libs as they are open licensed and they are modified for dotnet.

Can you confirm that your suggestion works? With which wine version? Which Logos / Verbum version please?
Workaround for missing libicu | Property: HASICUINDLL, Signature:SystemIcuinDllSearch
by Stefan Damm on Sunday June 30th 2024, 9:59
I am using Wine 9.11
Logos Version 34.1
It only installs afterwards Logos crashes shortly after start.

I tried the Windows versions of the icu DLLs but it would crash with them even before showing the Version.

To test further I built a libicu52 with VS2022 (first accidentally as debug version).
The funny thing is Logos would start using this Version but crash after some Seconds while having some String Artefacts (what would be expected from icu problems)
After checking with strace i noticed that the VCRuntime needed for the icu I built was missing.
Then switched to the release Version and installed the Runtime just to find that it now crashes with Segfault before the Version screen.

I also cannot get the Debugger to break on the Segfault so I know what causes it...
Workaround for missing libicu | Property: HASICUINDLL, Signature:SystemIcuinDllSearch
by John Goodman on Sunday June 30th 2024, 17:44
We got it working, see here - github.com/FaithLife-Community/LogosLinuxInstaller/issues/22
Also there is a pull request for the installer which adds this. We should have it tested and rolling out very soon but you can do it manually.
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