GameGuard

RF Online don´t play on Linux, because gameguard don´t run on Linux, this is as rootkit for Windows.

Most of the games work after gameguard removal
for example, version of aion/dekaron/9dragons on private servers without gameguard work perfectly (even faster thant window xp)

However by removing GameGuard most games wont work in the official servers version of the games. This page its about the usability of GameGuard (anti-cheat Rootkit) app.

Don't know why some companies still using GameGuard, seems to offer no real protection against cheaters at all but causing all kinds of trouble, especially with Anti-Virus software.

Whatever, would be great if Wine would support it in some way. Or at least explicitly show a dialog that GameGuard is not supported when detected.

GameGuard is also used in Aion.

My Friend playing SEAL Online, and can hack this gameguard easyly, so My friend can get special item.

I don't understand why they (developer game) use this gameguard.

could your friend explain how he does it?

my friend have "hacked version" of gameguard, he use it by replace the original gameguard with the "hacked version".
that for SEAL Online only.

Is it possible to simply detect if GameGuard is installed and running, and just return success for any system calls it does? In theory, wouldn't that please GG and cause it to "run," as well as the game it's "hooked" to?

I don't know what calls GG makes or if it's possible to simply return success for all the calls without it simply crashing, but is it at least worth a shot?

That might be a great way to look at it.
Let's see...
What file type is .des?
Maybe we should figure that out first.

a quick google search shows that .des is:
Quickbooks File or
Auto-CAD File

I don't think either of those are right. Maybe we should figure out how it works with the windows system.

wine is not emulator....
than is it possible just to simulate conditions which makes GameGuard happy :)))

There seems to be three Gameguard versions listed in the appdb, but none of them actually have version numbers, they're all marked as "bundled". They probably should be merged unless meaningful versioning is available.

Given it's an online-games protection service and presumably continuously updated, I doubt there's a meaningful versioning system available.

A quick poke around the Internet suggests that Gameguard does use a version numbering system, but I don't know how visible it is to users.

Anyway, unless we're seeing some games get stuck on older versions, it's probably not a useful versioning system as far as the AppDB is concerned.

Updates, runs, then it can't find oreans.vxd, creating the can't initalize error.

The file is there, however.

nProtect GameGuard is used with Silkroad Online, too. There it works fine, but why dosn't GameGuard run with other games?

I don't play other games using GameGuard, but i've tested it with the game "GrandChase" there it exits, because "GameMon" couldn't be executed.

I checked the company's website, and there appears to be various levels and versions of GameGuard. Maybe Silkroad uses a basic version of the software, which excludes an error-inducing feature?

Yes, I think you're right. I'll wait for other wine releases, perhaps other games will run someday, too.

Silkroad Online doesn't actually use GameGuard, its just a fake screen.

guys please, i'm sure this must be one of your highest priorities, and if not, it should be, there are so many gamers and games out there that are refusing to come to linux, thus we need linux to come to them, if we got this working, it would solve endless problems with games

Indeed, this post is dated but ..

Well .. it's not the fault of wine devs. Neither that they won't get this "done". nProtect is an aggresive System software, very low-level and very mutating (self updating). A Game is an Application. nForce is like a driver System Software. It's nearly impossible to provide an API for it's calls, because it would be part of wine itself like directX.

I don't say it is impossible, but *nearly*.
You have to be patient - but in the end it would be better to boycott such stuff instead of hack around this. Or you really want a rootkit-like software on top of your linux system ?

nProtect GameGuard is also bundled on all PlayNC Games (Lineage, Exteel, ...), Dekaron, DOMO, Flyff ...

GameGuard is what you call a rootkit, which injects itself into system files. GameGuard cannot function in WINE right now because WINE simply doesn't support the low-level access to files such as gdi32.dll and ntdll.dll (to name a few) which would aid it in functioning. The games themselves will not function without GameGuard because they are designed to close out if GameGuard cannot run. Right now, the only real way that GameGuard will work on WINE is if nProtect adds support for WINE, but that probably won't happen.

Also, the fact that GameGuard "isn't an exe" has nothing to do with whether it functions or not. It hides away in dll's and runs it's processes hidden under the guise of the files it injected itself into. It figures out when you are using a program to cheat or take screenshots through the use of these low-level features in it's host files.

Exactly, who wants to allow a rootkit that even casued certain windows machines to no longer be considered gunine windows and acts like a virus to run in wine. If you allow GG to make those low level edits and calls to dlls, then whats to stop viruses to begin running really well in wine?

Also causes Shaiya to malfunction...

Game Guard doesn't work on Linux because Game Guard isn't an exe file. It's its own file that runs as a plug in with Maple Story and such

This is used in ijji.com's Soldier Front too and it makes the game not playable with Wine...

This is also bundled in Gunbound, MapleStory, and GunZ. I really hope Wine is able to get this to run... soon. :)

This program, is added to Lineage2 too, this game doesn't work on Linux, some time ago i use Lineage2, but this say about an error 620, when the GameGuard is not initialized...